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A new bill has been proposed that would make a concealed carry license from any state valid in every state.

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Personally I think this is a great proposal. Your driver’s license does not expire when you cross state lines, and neither does your marriage license, so why should your concealed carry be revoked?

Republican Rep. Richard Hudson (N.C.) on Tuesday introduced a bill that would require states to recognize each other’s gun carry permits.

 

The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 would address the patchwork nature of the country’s gun carry laws. Currently, each state decides which other states’ gun carry permits it will recognize. Some states recognize all other states’ permits, other states recognize no other states’ permits, and many fall somewhere in between. Gun rights advocates have long decried the web of local laws as confusing and unfair–one in which a wrong turn or missed exit could end in an otherwise law abiding gun owner unintentionally committing a felony.

Richard Hudson stated, “Our Second Amendment right doesn’t disappear when we cross state lines, and this legislation guarantees that. The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 is a common sense solution to a problem too many Americans face. It will provide law-abiding citizens the right to conceal carry and travel freely between states without worrying about conflicting state codes or onerous civil suits.”

He is right. It is foolish to deny a person their 2nd amendment rights simply for being in a different state than the one they live in, and had their concealed carry permit issued. As long as they citizen is law-abiding, and their permit is not expired, then I don’t see the problem.

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  • TPM

    This will be an interesting fight and an uphill struggle, with gun restricting states and cities.
    Getting a permit in a city like New York is next to impossible. How would this work there?
    Stay tuned …

    • Mayor11

      Or DC or Chicago

      • Stargeezer

        Don’t go to Chicago WITHOUT a gun man. Go heeled or stay out of there. 🙂 I live downstate about 200 miles and any time I get within 100 miles of the place my wife says I start to clink from all the hardware. 🙂

    • InfidelCrusader

      Agreed. Even if this law is passed, and I sincerely hope that it is and it works as intended, I won’t be making a trip to a place like New Jersey with a gun anytime soon.

    • shooter9mm

      My Wife & I have FULL CARRY for over 25 years in NY. I had a Secret & Crypto Clearance & they still busted MY chops until we got a Judge with some brains & Gall. By the way, had I done what Hillary did, I would STILL be in the Brig. No intent, so no crime, what about ignorance of the LAW is NO excuse ?????

  • runbot

    Reciprocity Act? How about a NATIONAL CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY ACT! Nine states already have it. The only “permission slip” we already have, its called the 2nd AMENDMENT!

    • shooter9mm

      AMEN to that.

    • Kevin Jackson

      Thousands of ^

  • The Dutchman

    I have a CCP and just stay out of the liberal states that invite criminals to attack citizens with their anti gun laws.

    • delrayman

      We shouldn’t have to !!!!!

      • The Dutchman

        Shouldn’t have to what? Defend ourselves?

        • delrayman

          We should have to avoid Stupid Anti-Gun States….

          • The Dutchman

            I do! I live in a very rural area and always carry.

          • delrayman

            I always carry….. Driving to/from Florida and Pennsylvania is a challenge…. Especially in Maryland….

          • The Dutchman

            Why?

          • delrayman

            It was a typo!!!
            “We SHOULDN’T have to avoid Stupid Anti-Gun States “

          • The Dutchman

            Been there done that Eh?

        • ARJAY

          Read YOUR own post that he was commenting on!

          Shouldn’t have to stay out of states that don’t recognize your CCP!!!

          We HAVE the 2nd Amendment! THAT should be the ONLY “permit” we need!!

          • The Dutchman

            You are so right, BUT it doesn’t work that way in most dumbocrap run states.

      • Michael E Heis

        Don’t have to according to the Constitution Article 4 section 1. Read it and comprehend that this is nothing but a federal database of CCW holders for no good reason.

        • delrayman

          Of course I understand Constitutional Carry….. But until then, National Reciprocity is the next best thing . And I don’t see anything about a National Data Base…. My Florida CCW Permit will be valid in every State, just as my Drivers License is.

    • Nikita63

      That is O.K. if you have no reason to do a lot of Interstate travel. I do and am a disabled Vietnam vet but being from MA going to VA to TN, GA, NC, SC, and FL, plus all the liberal states in the North No state recognizes my CCP outside of MA and I am 72 and travel alone. What then: pray tell? This legislation SHOULD be passed. After all: if anyone is responsible enough to risk their lives in VOLUNTARY military service; especially for an idiotic foreign policy as the one in place for the last 8 years, He or she SHOULD have the right to carry in all U.S. possessions, in my opinion. The proposed law is the right thing to do and I am sure the crime rate in this country will drop like a rock if that law passes and is implemented at least in the contiguous continental states. What was created as a NATIONAL law should be practiced NATIONALLY. period. Background checks and competency classes are necessary in most states for those obtaining a CCP. I know it is so in MA and many others. And, The right should NEVER have been “infringed,” in the first place.

      • TXGULFCOAST

        Get a Virginia CCL. It’s recognized in 27 states. No classes required, just a test & the fee. (Unless things have changed recently.)

        • Nikita63

          I had looked into the possibility of a Utah License which was also good in a multiplicity of states ( ONCE 29, NOW I AM NOT SURE) but. I am pretty sure that the corrupt corridor I must travel from MA to VA quite frequently means going through less than gun friendly domains like CT,NY, NJ, DE,and PA. Some reciprocity is likely but MA CCPs are not reciprocated on the two routes I must follow through at least SOME of those states,inclusive of BOTH Interstate highways 81 and 95! It is totally unfair and an INFRINGEMENT which is I hope , soon to be ended by the passage of the proposed legislation to make a VALID CCP from any state good in all fifty plus all U.S. possessions. If the Constitution is revered and ADHERED to in all fifty and driver’s licenses are honored in all states, So should the CCP! Auto accidents in any given year kill more than all the gun related incidents in this country , though those are on the rise due to internal terror and Jihad groups and ALL THE MORE REASON EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN should have the right to defend themselves as police and other law enforcement can only respond to an event after it has taken place and then, it is inevitably and ALWAYS, TOO LATE. And, it is obvious that Government could care less about their AMERICAN CITIZEN constituencies and most parts of it belong in prison, not public office. I guess it is possible to go online for the VA license to carry concealed and it would at least cover me while in The Shenandoah Valley, but the problem is the lawlessness of some states in regard to illegal search and seizure . What ought to be outlawed after all the abuses to Americans and benefits given to illegals and other enemies within, AT OUR EXPENSE: is the democratic party in this honorably serving Vietnam vet;s opinion. And, I have had a degree in GOVERNMENT since a year before serving in the 1968 Tet Offensive, then receiving revelations on government corruption as staff at Walter Reed Army Medical Center for my last 18 months of active duty watching Congress cretins get preferred treatment over our combat traumatic multiply wounded AMPUTEES! Look at the governmental treatment of ALL our vets now and you can see for yourself how little regard is given to them even now. SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE, BUT THEY SHOULD BE CHANGED.! I was born here in MA and have resided here all my life but, I am about as far from being a lazy, no good lunatic liberal as you can get and I definitely prefer life South of the Mason – Dixon line. period.

  • 357 magnum

    Maybe the NEW PRESIDENT will read this and through executive action make it law.

    • runbot

      The NRA ponied up 23 million for Trump – he’d better listen!

  • tdg54

    Nice idea, but good luck getting NY, PA, NJ, IL, CA, OR, or WA to sign on anytime soon. Sheesh, these clowns think it says “SHALL be infringed whenever a STATE decides it’s the best policy.”

    • Clay Fitzgerald

      Washington State is a ‘shall issue state’ meaning that anyone that passes the background check and pays the $50 fee can obtain a Concealed Pistol License that is recognized in 10 other states, including Utah. I have a CPL issued in Washington plus a non-resident Utah CCP that is recognized in 30+ other states. Washington’s CPL is not recognized in more states because there is no training required to get one. Additionally, open carry of handguns is permitted in nearly all places. Exceptions are those where firearms are not permitted to be carried except by LEO’s and as spelled out in state and federal law, concealed or open.

      • tdg54

        IL is shall issue state too. 16 hours of class-time, range qualification included. Fees are higher. I have 24 states with reciprocity, some of the states that don’t recognize my IL. CCW allow permits to their own residents if they have a heartbeat and can still stand. It’s a patchwork of laws, and God help someone not in the know and traveling thru NY, NJ, and a host of other states with their gun(s.)

        • Clay Fitzgerald

          The information I have is that IL does NOT recognize any other state’s concealed carry, hence, no reciprocity for out of state permits/licenses.

          • tdg54

            Unfortunately, that is 99% correct. Our legislators are in fact quite stubborn on the issue. I say 99%, cause they were so gracious as to allow permit holders from other states to conceal carry in their cars, so at least we have THAT going for us.

        • Stargeezer

          Only one point of correction 54. IL does not require a person to have a heartbeat and stand – in my case the heartbeat can be optional (at times) and the last time I stood up was in 1985 when I slid off an Army missile launcher. Been sitting in a power wheelchair for a bit more than half my life now, but I’ll put my shooting skills up against about anybody. You betcha they issued me a CCP, one of the first 200 in the state.

          • tdg54

            Dang, Stargeezer. My sincerest apologies. I never meant any disrespect to those confined to wheelchairs, and yet, there I was, disrespecting those in wheelchairs.
            I’ll amend the “heartbeat and stand” to plain ole “heartbeat” henceforth – caveat, with due respect to the not so constant heartbeats.

          • Stargeezer

            Hey man, I was just giving you a little light hearted ribbing. I didn’t mean anything by it either. I did have a guy write to me on a blog one day that a paralyzed person couldn’t handle anything bigger than a .22 let alone a .50 cal, but I just told him that was why I needed this 300 pound anchor under my butt, and invited him to a shoot off at my range. (I also sent him a pic of me putting a few .50’s down range) He didn’t have much to say after that.

        • Kevin Jackson

          16 hours of class-time and any fee is infringement and therefore illegal. Let’s arrest the Illinois State governor and legislature for passing a law that violates the Constitution

      • Kevin Jackson

        A $50 fee is infringement and therefore illegal. Let’s arrest the Washington State governor and legislature for passing a law that violates the Constitution.

        • Clay Fitzgerald

          Good luck with that! Who’s gonna do the arresting, besides that the law has been in effect for a long, long time… before the current governor and many, if not all, in the state legislature were in office.

    • David Lingg

      Pa is a shall issue state & has reciprocity in 30 other states. Does not include the bordering socialist states of NY, NJ, Md or Del. No reciprocity with Ohio, but, they allow pass through.

  • ADRoberts

    Wonderful. Talk about shutting down New Jersey’s abuse of those traveling through their state. Right now, their sorry LEOs love to stop out of state cars and illegally search for guns. LOL

  • ARJAY

    We HAVE the 2nd Amendment, THAT IS OUR CARRY “PERMIT”!

    ALL “laws” that “INFRINGE” on our RIGHT to “KEEP AND BEAR ARMS” is in VIOLATION of our CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Here is a great read. This explains where the rights we have, that are GUARANTEED to be protected by our CONSTITUTION, come from.

    The Legacy of the Declaration: Our Rights Come From God, Not Government

    By Pamela Adams July 4, 2016

    The principle of giving ruling power to the governed, and not a government, is what set America apart from its beginning. The concept laid out in the Declaration of Independence, that our rights come from God and not man, has been her defining quality. It is why tyrants fear her and liberty-loving people everywhere want to be her.

    The first draft of the Declaration of Independence was presented to Congress on July 2, 1776, with its adoption occurring on July 4, 1776. It is now believed few, if any, actually signed it on that day, though Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin all declared its endorsement on the 4th.

    To truly understand the uniqueness of America, one must only study its founding documents. Some of the most remarkable proclamations are made in the 2nd paragraph of this declaration:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident” – They are obvious, unmistakable, and undeniable. No one can take them away from you.

    “That all men are created equal” – No matter race, creed or color, every person is CREATED equal. This does not guarantee equal pay, equal housing or even equal wealth. It acknowledges we are all creations, not accidents of nature. Considering one inferior because of race, religion, nationality, or
    social status is an evolutionistic “survival of the fittest” mentality, not one for God’s children. This pronouncement alone was central to the abolitionists’ argument that our Founding Fathers declared Africans to be white man’s equal. Likewise, equal creation does not assure humans will be void of conflict or war as evil lives and breaths here on earth.

    “That they are endowed by their Creator” – Yes, our Founding Fathers DID believe in God, and that he was our Creator. Progressive liberals are tirelessly working to re-write history, removing references to God from our Founding Fathers’ mouths and pens. They claim we don’t actually know what “Creator” the Founding Fathers were referring to. Henry M. Morris, Ph.D., studied this question and discovered
    the following:

    “In fact, all the signers of the Declaration and the delegates to the Constitutional Convention, as well as the delegates to the various sessions of the Continental Congress—at least so far as known—were men who believed in God and the special creation of the world and mankind. Nearly all were members
    of Christian churches and believed the Bible to be the inspired Word of God.”

    They ignore that 23 out of the 56 signers were clergy. To think they meant anyone other than God as the Creator would be illogical. There is also no reason to believe these men would have denied prayer, Judeo-Christian principles and Christ’s name in the government. Pilgrims came here for Freedom
    OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion. It is well documented they spoke of Christ and God both in government and in their lives, not just in their churches. It is why Moses is etched into the Supreme Court building holding the 10 Commandments. Regardless, some will continue to reject God as the Creator despite the overwhelming evidence the Founders were undoubtedly referring to the Biblical God.

    Another line of attack is towards Thomas Jefferson, arguing he was not Christian but a deist. They present The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth, or the Jefferson Bible as it is informally called, as
    their proof. Jefferson personally selected and assembled a collection of gospel passages for distribution. Since he left out miracles and the Resurrection, he is accused of denying the true Christ. The truth is, Jefferson focused on the teachings of Christ as a model for Christian morality. He was not making a theological argument. He believed that if we follow Christ’s virtues, people had the principles and values to govern themselves, free from government’s shackles.

    “with certain unalienable Rights” – Freedoms that can never be taken away nor can you give away.

    “that among these are Life” – Life, that precious gift that God gives us at conception. The unalienable right thoughtlessly taken from over a million unborn babies every year. Life, that treasured gift from
    God we have a liberty to protect with any means necessary, including a gun, if it is threatened.

    “Liberty” – The independence, freedom, and self-determination to dictate your own direction, your own path, and your own destiny. The only restriction is one’s rights end where another’s rights begin. Forcing a businessperson to violate their religious beliefs and participate in a same-sex wedding is a
    complete infringement of their inalienable right to liberty. Socialism, disguised at progressive liberalism, is liberty’s kryptonite and we are in serious danger of losing it for at least a generation, if not forever.

    “and the pursuit of Happiness” – The original phrase considered here was “Property”. This was a concept Jefferson borrowed from John Locke. Since slave owners considered slaves property, the
    Founders replaced the term so slavery could not be misinterpreted as a constitutional right. “Pursuit of Happiness” grants you the right to actively strive for personal fulfillment. Is achievement guaranteed? Absolutely not, but you have the privilege to forge ahead with any past-time, faith, career, or invention you desire. Take heed to not get deceived into believing you are assured success.

    “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.” – An unprecedented design where the government’s power rests in the hands of the governed. With this power comes extreme responsibility. Americans are charged to hold their elected officials accountable for their actions. We must watch them diligently, speaking out at any attempt to restrict the God given rights just described. This is why Constitutionalists are so feared by both the Left and the Right in Washington. They are educating Americans about their rights, defending the Constitution, and exposing Washington as the pit of corruption it is.

    John Adams penned the following sentiment to his wife on July 3, 1776. He characterized the historical significance of the Declaration of Independence perfectly, though he missed the party by two days.

    “The second day of July 1776 will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever.

    “You will think me transported with enthusiasm, but I am not. I am well aware of the toil and blood and treasure that it will cost to maintain this Declaration and support and defend these States. Yet through all the gloom I can see the rays of ravishing light and glory. I can see that the end is worth more than all the means; that posterity will triumph in that day’s transaction, even though we [may regret] it, which I trust in God we shall not.”

    The Declaration of Independence proclaims there are certain freedoms given by God. Because of that, no man can deny them. This concept alone makes the document unprecedented, historical and unique. Before it, people were conditioned to accept that their rights were granted, as well as abolished, by a government or king. The Declaration broke that chokehold. Over the past 100 years, Progressives have been doing everything they can to return the government’s grip around our necks. God is actively being removed from our lives and our history. We have irradiated our “solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty” so man can once again assume the role of ultimate authority.

    May God be with us today as He was with us over 200 years ago. We have so fallen astray. God Bless you all and God Bless America.

    But that’s just my 2 cents.

    • Kevin Jackson

      That’s your $25!

  • ARJAY

    CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY is what we already have, 2nd Amendment. ALL we NEED!

    ALL “laws” to the contrary are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Michael E Heis

      Article 4 Section 1 gives us reciprocity for CCW already.

      • tdg54

        I do not have the $$ needed to fight a bust in NY, NJ, and several other Cities in gun-hater controlled areas.

        • Kevin Jackson

          Agreed! We have the right in theory but in practice you have to have enough time and money to fight the state in court (remember, the State has unlimited funds).

  • shooter9mm

    The LAW is standardized, it is called The US Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, nowhere in it does this FEDERAL CONSTITUTION give ANY State the right to deny you carrying ARMS. It is because our Politicians are all freaking LIARS & do NOT uphold their Oath Of Office. No different than the dolts who DEFY the Immigration Laws with their Sanctuary Cities. WHY are these Mayors or Governors not arrested for violating Federal Statutes, WE WOULD BE, Politicians protecting Politicians. WE need another King George & take back OUR country.

    • Michael E Heis

      Oh so very true. Read the Constitution, we don’t need a repciprocity law, we need to follow Article 4 Sec 1, the Full Faith and Credit Clause to wit: “Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.”

      That alone gives my court issued permit validity in all states, the same as a marriage license, a divorce, etc. This is nothing but a grab against our rights and if you don’t see this you are swallowing the BS DC Swamp crap hook line and sinker.

      • tdg54

        Michael, I agree with the sentiment, but if you get busted in Jersey, NY, LA, Portland Or, Chicago, or many other Cities and use that as a defense, you’ve got a larger than life chance of going to prison just the same.

        • shooter9mm

          I don’t know about that, according to the FBI Director Comey, they have to prove intent, no intent, no crime, worked for Hillary

          • tdg54

            Except he specifically warned that nobody else would get away with such bullshit.

        • Stargeezer

          Concealed carry is legal in all of Illinois now. We even have reciprocity with a number of other states. I live for the day when I can travel in Cali again, but since we travel fully armed, it’s just not going to happen for some time.

      • Kevin Jackson

        “full faith and credit” is fine for citizens from states that respect the constitution. But, if you’re in a gun ban state or city your “full faith and credit” still violates you rights.

  • frankenbiker

    Its a great idea thats time has finally come. With majority in both houses and execitive branch under GOP rule, it should be an easy pass. That being said the RINOS may screw it up

    • Kevin Jackson

      Not good enough. Reciprocity must include concealed or open carry with or without license for all non-criminal, non-crazy adult citizens.
      Which makes me wonder why we need a law that says the same thing the Constitution says.

      • frankenbiker

        Uou are absolutely right. We already have the one law, right that we need.

  • Sloopofwar

    I live in AZ. here we’re not required to have a permit. But I have one in I decide to travel beyond state lines. I live about 3 miles from the Cali. border. However in the past 5 years I may have been to Cali about 4 times. It smells to much of liberalism. I’m all for this bill. I do however have a very small amount of concern for it. I’m lookin at it as if they’re imposing on states choice. On the other hand, Pass it, I want to see Californias reaction along with the rest of the liberal states. Not that I will be going to many. Especially California.

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